Never gonna give up

I think that there are definitely times when you should give up. I mean, if at first you don't succeed, try a couple more times, but know when you need to give up. I think that you should give up and walk away if you get in an arguement with a stubborn person, or someone who just has stupid arguements, and you find yourself thinking, "Why am I trying to argue this when this idiot just keeps saying "Why?"?" For instance, I know someone who says that apple trees aren't grown from seeds, they're grown by grafting two existing trees together. No matter how much common sense and logic I use, they still won't believe that apple trees grow from seeds. I say yeah, you can graft them, but they naturally grow from seeds. As far as giving up and not giving up, i think usually a person knows when to give up as long as they are right in the head. Also, when it comees to something very close to someone, they won't give up as easily. As for NOT giving up, I think people sometimes have a harder time with this. Like school, for instance. There are lots of kids who just give up in school and accept F's, and don't give a crap if they have to take Integrated Math 1 and Future Focus for the rest of their highschool career. I know I've slowly been getting lazier in my highschool career, but that's just because Everything from the eigth grade and below was never a challenge, and now that classes are actually hard, I need to not give up on some things, but it's just so hard sometimes, so I can understand why some kids might give up. But I don't do it in such an important way, I guess. i go "Meh, a B will be fine with me", but other kids just don't know how failing highschool will affect their lives.